This year marks the Centenary of Florence Li Tim-Oi’s Birth. Born in 1907, she was the first woman ordained to the Priesthood in the modern era - on 25 January 1944 - by the Bishop of Hong Kong. I remember seeing her at Barbara Harris’ consecration to the Episcopacy: a sense of a link in an eternal chain. She’s one of the Dancing Saints on the wall at St Gregory of Nyssa Church in SF.
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I imagine she and the bishop who did it were obviously Protestant in their beliefs, the kind of well-meaning Christians who today wouldn’t mind mergers with non-episcopal churches or lay presidency at the Eucharist.
And I think I understand and appreciate the modern argument for what they did based on rights but the theological argument required to get there - Jesus didn’t really found a church, holy orders are man-made and so on - is a non-starter for Catholics.
Granted for people like me a lot of this is bound up in identity - ‘party badge, Father’ - but for me in the end it’s ‘larger church > everything else’. Misogyny is absolutely nothing to do with it.
Once you accept that greater premise the defence of the apostolic ministry as handed down - equality but complementarity like the recent Popes have taught - slots into place.
I noted in my blog yesterday commenting on an Anglican article contrasting Catholic sacramentalism with ‘knowledged-based’ Protestantism, on women’s ordination and other issues, that most ethnic born Orthodox, entirely sacramentalist, prove the writer’s point: among them the question of women’s ordination hardly ever comes up.
Hey, Serge - I saw that post and still trying to digest it. I’ve said as much about American Protestantism: the New Age is the logical result of the westward migration of protestant ideals. Start in Germany, moving gradually away from centralised powers (Rome, etc) into individualism and end in California.
I guess inorder to discuss it, I’m working on an internal definition of
A) Religion
B) Sacrametalism
C) Magic
D) Superstition
I have trouble drawing lines between any of those things.
And the “Clergy as Functionary” logic behind women clergy (not used by all supporters!) leads directly to lay presidency. And begs the question of whose reading of Acts is valid.