Comments on: There goes *everyone* http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/ We are Flesh-and-Spirit on a journey to Integral Unity with God. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:02:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Huw http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2305 Huw Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:05:40 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2305 Without attempting to open a huge can of worms... memory says one of the east-west "papal power" issues is over such a question. Did the pope say XYZ in an "official document" or in a "private correspondence"? Is there a difference when you are Pope? There is an odd story of an Orthodox monk who went to hell for doubt. In hell he was told that one day he had a conversation with a friend - an atheist - and during that conversation he said, "Oh, yes, I can understand this argument against God." And for this he was sent to hell for a lack of faith. Untrue - and clearly not at all like the deity I've found in Christ. But I think the story exemplifies the kind of combing we might see *as needed*. In other words, if a candidate is politically popular (JPII) he'll get coasted through. But if a candidate is politically out of vogue (John 23rd) we might see a bit of a tighter scrutiny. Just a guess - but I don't like the German Shepherd very much. Without attempting to open a huge can of worms… memory says one of the east-west “papal power” issues is over such a question. Did the pope say XYZ in an “official document” or in a “private correspondence”? Is there a difference when you are Pope?

There is an odd story of an Orthodox monk who went to hell for doubt. In hell he was told that one day he had a conversation with a friend - an atheist - and during that conversation he said, “Oh, yes, I can understand this argument against God.” And for this he was sent to hell for a lack of faith.

Untrue - and clearly not at all like the deity I’ve found in Christ. But I think the story exemplifies the kind of combing we might see *as needed*. In other words, if a candidate is politically popular (JPII) he’ll get coasted through. But if a candidate is politically out of vogue (John 23rd) we might see a bit of a tighter scrutiny. Just a guess - but I don’t like the German Shepherd very much.

]]> By: Geoff http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2304 Geoff Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:46:39 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2304 I'd like to know what the definition of "teaching" is. Is it everything they ever said and wrote? Is it only what they said formally? What about causal conversations? What about in their youth? What about that one night when they were having brewskis with their good buddy, the Protestant and had a little too much to drink? I happen to like Papa Ratzi a good deal. But this seems like a rather impossible requirement for canonization. I’d like to know what the definition of “teaching” is. Is it everything they ever said and wrote? Is it only what they said formally? What about causal conversations? What about in their youth? What about that one night when they were having brewskis with their good buddy, the Protestant and had a little too much to drink?

I happen to like Papa Ratzi a good deal. But this seems like a rather impossible requirement for canonization.

]]> By: Huw http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2265 Huw Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:42:40 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2265 Let's be accurate: ex-hilter youth - and that only because enrolment was required of the entire nation. Let’s be accurate: ex-hilter youth - and that only because enrolment was required of the entire nation.

]]> By: episcopal underground http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2264 episcopal underground Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:23:23 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2264 If I were nasty, I'd say something like... "well, what else can one expect from a Nazi"... but since it's Lent, and I'm trying to be good.. I'll just offer thanks that my holiness is rooted in Christ's holiness... and enjoy the company of those doubting disciples... If I were nasty, I’d say something like… “well, what else can one expect from a Nazi”… but since it’s Lent, and I’m trying to be good.. I’ll just offer thanks that my holiness is rooted in Christ’s holiness… and enjoy the company of those doubting disciples…

]]> By: david http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2263 david Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:49:20 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/02/18/there-goes-everyone/#comment-2263 what makes someone holy? when will christ return? is it a binary equation? is talking the word evangelizing? is it even walking in the light? how does dna even though it is damaged or unraveling continue to produce a consistent organism? how does the meaning of oral traditions remain consistent throughout the machinations of time, writing systems, and language? does christ return when will all manifest his grace? or when none are left who manifest it? or both? will knowing the answers to these questions, make waiting any easier? 2/19/08 what makes someone holy?
when will christ return?
is it a binary equation?
is talking the word evangelizing?
is it even walking in the light?
how does dna even though it is damaged or unraveling continue to produce a consistent organism?
how does the meaning of oral traditions remain consistent throughout the machinations of time, writing systems, and language?
does christ return when will all manifest his grace?
or when none are left who manifest it?
or both?
will knowing the answers to these questions, make waiting any easier?
2/19/08

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