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	<title>Comments on: Emergent Sacramentalists</title>
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	<description>Some place between 40 and Death</description>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2544</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I *really* like &lt;a href="http://www.scotland.anglican.org/index.php/liturgy/liturgy/scottish_liturgy_1982_with_alternative_eucharistic_prayers/" rel="nofollow"&gt;these prayers&lt;/a&gt; a lot!

I rather like the prayers from &lt;a href="http://www.saintgregorys.org/worship/resources_section/232/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SGN&lt;/a&gt; but the Scottish prayers are nice as well.  I think I might re-order them to the SGN format (with the Sanctus at the end).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I *really* like <a href="http://www.scotland.anglican.org/index.php/liturgy/liturgy/scottish_liturgy_1982_with_alternative_eucharistic_prayers/" rel="nofollow">these prayers</a> a lot!</p>
<p>I rather like the prayers from <a href="http://www.saintgregorys.org/worship/resources_section/232/" rel="nofollow">SGN</a> but the Scottish prayers are nice as well.  I think I might re-order them to the SGN format (with the Sanctus at the end).</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2543</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the suggestion of the liturgy of the Scottish Episcopal Church. They have seasonal Eucharistic prayers which are a bit lengthy but are quite smashing in imagery and language. I used the one for Advent at an "alt-ish" Eucharist and every single attendee remarked how much they liked it. 

I'm finding myself more and more fascinated by Indy Sacramentalism, although I guess I'm just a bit too much of a BCP Episcopalian to be comfortable with too many deviations. I've been to "emergent" style churches filled with postevangelicals who did a wonderful, reverent communion service with fabulous and well-planned liturgy, while my pilgrimages to the Home of Things Anglimergent, Church of the Apostles in Seattle, have always left me cold and just a little uncomfortable. 

Is it a matter of deciding what's acceptable practice, and does setting a standard deviate from what we mean by "indy?" I dunno; I guess I'm just thinking aloud here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the suggestion of the liturgy of the Scottish Episcopal Church. They have seasonal Eucharistic prayers which are a bit lengthy but are quite smashing in imagery and language. I used the one for Advent at an &#8220;alt-ish&#8221; Eucharist and every single attendee remarked how much they liked it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m finding myself more and more fascinated by Indy Sacramentalism, although I guess I&#8217;m just a bit too much of a BCP Episcopalian to be comfortable with too many deviations. I&#8217;ve been to &#8220;emergent&#8221; style churches filled with postevangelicals who did a wonderful, reverent communion service with fabulous and well-planned liturgy, while my pilgrimages to the Home of Things Anglimergent, Church of the Apostles in Seattle, have always left me cold and just a little uncomfortable. </p>
<p>Is it a matter of deciding what&#8217;s acceptable practice, and does setting a standard deviate from what we mean by &#8220;indy?&#8221; I dunno; I guess I&#8217;m just thinking aloud here.</p>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2542</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonna have to google the Lima Liturgy.  I'm fond of the Didache set, myself, although I've been really impressed with Fr Bede Griffith's church in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonna have to google the Lima Liturgy.  I&#8217;m fond of the Didache set, myself, although I&#8217;ve been really impressed with Fr Bede Griffith&#8217;s church in India.</p>
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		<title>By: Tripp</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2541</link>
		<dc:creator>Tripp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this is fun.

The Lima liturgy could be a place to start as well.  Look to the ecumenical movement, Huw.

Also, check out Reconciler.

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is fun.</p>
<p>The Lima liturgy could be a place to start as well.  Look to the ecumenical movement, Huw.</p>
<p>Also, check out Reconciler.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2540</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - WONDERFUL.  Thanks for sharing that... (I don't much mind the whitewash in general: but the space, itself, needs more).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben - WONDERFUL.  Thanks for sharing that&#8230; (I don&#8217;t much mind the whitewash in general: but the space, itself, needs more).</p>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2539</link>
		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 12:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian - I think we've had this conversation before, but I'm sad y'all opted for a full screen.  There was so much light and simple beauty in the design: I'll be using it when I build a church!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian - I think we&#8217;ve had this conversation before, but I&#8217;m sad y&#8217;all opted for a full screen.  There was so much light and simple beauty in the design: I&#8217;ll be using it when I build a church!</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin J. Andersen</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin J. Andersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Russian Catholic community here in Denver meets in a Roman Catholic parish church, Saint Elizabeth of Hungary. Both the Russian Catholic and Roman Catholic communities share a bi-ritual pastor, as well as a sanctuary and an altar. 

Anyhow, they have an ingenious iconostasis which actually folds in on both sides when they have Roman Rite Masses. The church itself is a bit too bare for my tastes (it was whitewashed after Vatican II), but I do think the iconostasis is a rather interesting solution.

You can see what I'm talking about here:

http://www.stelizofhungary.org/docs/ste_directory.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Russian Catholic community here in Denver meets in a Roman Catholic parish church, Saint Elizabeth of Hungary. Both the Russian Catholic and Roman Catholic communities share a bi-ritual pastor, as well as a sanctuary and an altar. </p>
<p>Anyhow, they have an ingenious iconostasis which actually folds in on both sides when they have Roman Rite Masses. The church itself is a bit too bare for my tastes (it was whitewashed after Vatican II), but I do think the iconostasis is a rather interesting solution.</p>
<p>You can see what I&#8217;m talking about here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stelizofhungary.org/docs/ste_directory.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.stelizofhungary.org/docs/ste_directory.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is my parish in Sacramento.  We now have the full Iconostasis.  I rather miss the old open Holy Place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is my parish in Sacramento.  We now have the full Iconostasis.  I rather miss the old open Holy Place.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Peter Preble</title>
		<link>http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/04/22/emergent-sacramentalists/#comment-2530</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Peter Preble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen the liturgy from the Scottish Episcopal Church?  I have always had this dream of a monastery that was mixed and many different rites were celbrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the liturgy from the Scottish Episcopal Church?  I have always had this dream of a monastery that was mixed and many different rites were celbrated.</p>
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