Comments on: Morning Prayer Sources http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/05/13/morning-prayer-sources/ Some place between 40 and Death Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:22:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: The young fogey http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/05/13/morning-prayer-sources/#comment-3168 The young fogey Fri, 16 May 2008 23:34:07 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/?p=2630#comment-3168 In general, why not? Rules about rite cover what's done in church; at home prayer is prayer. I say Met. Philaret's prayer every day too. Unsurprisingly I say no to mandatory regular revisions but Kevin more or less describes why different rites and different versions of the same rite exist! Gradual tweaking over time: the local, organic, glacial-pace way of liturgical change. Traditional Catholicism isn't uniform/monolithic. In the second comment you describe why private devotions exist. The Diurnal is wonderful - I was given an original copy recently - and cranking out those psalms is the heart of the Western office but I agree it can be a bit dry. I think it only seems out of balance to those of us who don't do Matins with its substantial readings. In general, why not? Rules about rite cover what’s done in church; at home prayer is prayer.

I say Met. Philaret’s prayer every day too.

Unsurprisingly I say no to mandatory regular revisions but Kevin more or less describes why different rites and different versions of the same rite exist! Gradual tweaking over time: the local, organic, glacial-pace way of liturgical change. Traditional Catholicism isn’t uniform/monolithic.

In the second comment you describe why private devotions exist.

The Diurnal is wonderful - I was given an original copy recently - and cranking out those psalms is the heart of the Western office but I agree it can be a bit dry. I think it only seems out of balance to those of us who don’t do Matins with its substantial readings.

]]> By: Huw http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/05/13/morning-prayer-sources/#comment-3058 Huw Thu, 15 May 2008 13:35:36 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/?p=2630#comment-3058 I kinda waffle. I like the MP liturgy in the BCP (and in <a href="http://www.andrewespress.com/md.html" rel="nofollow">The Monastic Diurnal</a>) but it is certainly <i>liturgy</i> - IE, the public work of the Church. But somehow I don't feel like I've done my "prayer duty" after reading it... it's hard to describe. So this collection of morning prayers is more like private devotions. You'll notice there is a link to the C of E's Morning Prayer rite at the bottom of the page. Doing both has come to me as a possibility: both being public liturgy & private devotions. I kinda waffle. I like the MP liturgy in the BCP (and in The Monastic Diurnal) but it is certainly liturgy - IE, the public work of the Church. But somehow I don’t feel like I’ve done my “prayer duty” after reading it… it’s hard to describe. So this collection of morning prayers is more like private devotions. You’ll notice there is a link to the C of E’s Morning Prayer rite at the bottom of the page. Doing both has come to me as a possibility: both being public liturgy & private devotions.

]]> By: Kevin http://raphael.doxos.com/2008/05/13/morning-prayer-sources/#comment-2976 Kevin Wed, 14 May 2008 17:12:23 +0000 http://raphael.doxos.com/?p=2630#comment-2976 I have the habit of morning prayer in group and use the 1979 prayer book. Overtimeour small group has modified the standard slightly. While its comfortable for us, I am amazed when I attend morning prayer elsewhere that even the slightest changes come to the forefront of my mind very quickly. This is a good experience, rather than an interuption, allowing me to think through traditions. I am a proponent of updating the prayer books more frequently than every 50-years or so. Its seems that the body of the faithful is going to stray always to more modern framework and practices. Fifty year updates seem to me a half-hearted compromise between a 2000 year old tradition and a real-time world. I have the habit of morning prayer in group and use the 1979 prayer book. Overtimeour small group has modified the standard slightly. While its comfortable for us, I am amazed when I attend morning prayer elsewhere that even the slightest changes come to the forefront of my mind very quickly. This is a good experience, rather than an interuption, allowing me to think through traditions. I am a proponent of updating the prayer books more frequently than every 50-years or so. Its seems that the body of the faithful is going to stray always to more modern framework and practices. Fifty year updates seem to me a half-hearted compromise between a 2000 year old tradition and a real-time world.

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