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	<title>Comments on: Like Holy Week</title>
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		<title>By: Huw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huw</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thanks, Donald!  I&#039;m a little more hopeful than I let on, I think.  But only a little.  Carter... Clinton... Obama.  Maybe things will be different.

I do like your connecting of &quot;community organizer&quot; with pragmatism.  I&#039;d not yet seen those two as being reflections of each other.  Honestly, it is his community organizing skills that interest me.  I want to see where that goes - although, of course, the cynic in me fears simple demagoguery!  

The other thing that gives me hope is his popularity out in the world: not because we need a popular president, but rather because I think it means the world might actually trust us to be who we promise ourselves to be under him - rather than the local bully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Donald!  I&#8217;m a little more hopeful than I let on, I think.  But only a little.  Carter&#8230; Clinton&#8230; Obama.  Maybe things will be different.</p>
<p>I do like your connecting of &#8220;community organizer&#8221; with pragmatism.  I&#8217;d not yet seen those two as being reflections of each other.  Honestly, it is his community organizing skills that interest me.  I want to see where that goes &#8211; although, of course, the cynic in me fears simple demagoguery!  </p>
<p>The other thing that gives me hope is his popularity out in the world: not because we need a popular president, but rather because I think it means the world might actually trust us to be who we promise ourselves to be under him &#8211; rather than the local bully.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huw,

I&#039;m more hopeful and intrigued at this than you are, including thinking that the belittled &#039;community organizer&#039; will be consistently moderate because he&#039;s looking for consensus for change.  That&#039;s how I understand his declared pragmatic approach to abortion, for example (which offends both pro-life and pro-choice purists).  

more to the point, though, and what prompted me to write here was that I really, really like your last little paragraph.  &quot;I think a lot of faithful people imagine Obama will make living out the Gospel easier for them.  I think a lot of faithful people imagine OBama will make living out the Gospel harder for them.  I think the only thing that matters is that Jesus is Lord.&quot;

love,
donald</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huw,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m more hopeful and intrigued at this than you are, including thinking that the belittled &#8216;community organizer&#8217; will be consistently moderate because he&#8217;s looking for consensus for change.  That&#8217;s how I understand his declared pragmatic approach to abortion, for example (which offends both pro-life and pro-choice purists).  </p>
<p>more to the point, though, and what prompted me to write here was that I really, really like your last little paragraph.  &#8220;I think a lot of faithful people imagine Obama will make living out the Gospel easier for them.  I think a lot of faithful people imagine OBama will make living out the Gospel harder for them.  I think the only thing that matters is that Jesus is Lord.&#8221;</p>
<p>love,<br />
donald</p>
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