Right now…
CTUALLY, Yer Host is very sucky at maintaining a rule of prayer for any period of time (9-12 months is about average). For the last year I was using the Church of England’s Common Worship: Daily Prayer which I love. But it’s rather light… and the lectionary is choppy.
Right now I’m liking 1st & 3rd hours in the AM, with the 6th hour at lunch time if I remember it. 9th Hour and Typika as a sort of evening prayer and compline at night.
Vespers and Matins you ask? Well in the ER they are way harder to pull off alone. So – at least until my books from New Skete get here – I’m using a copy of Byzantine Daily Prayer and a Typica service.
Huw blogged this on May 14th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Tags: Anglo-Byzantine, ER, prayer, today | Category: orthoparadoxy, personal
Discussion: You came too late to this party
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Tags: Anglo-Byzantine, ER, prayer, today | Category: orthoparadoxy, personal
Discussion: You came too late to this party
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I’m glad you’re liking Byzantine Daily Worship. This Western Rite boy – who should have paid better attention to chapel services and liturgy classes at Orthodox seminary – is thoroughly enjoying it, but maybe that’s because I come from the Latin Breviary tradition and hardly know any better. I don’t care for the language, but that’s because I’ve been spoiled on the Coverdale, Cranmer, and the AV.
Let us know what you think of the New Skete books when you get them. I happen to like them: they’re well laid-out, well done and easy to follow.
The Church of England’s “Common Worship” website is nice too: good design, good language, very accessible.
Gregory – a full review is planned! I sent them money based on a price list you quoted in an earlier comment. I’m awaiting a copy of the Prayer Book as well as “Hymns of Entreaty” and “Troparia and Kondakia”. I’ll worry about the lenten and festal books in those seasons!
I use the Uniontown, Pa. Greek Catholic set of five office books (gift from a priest) and an old BCP for the psalm and canticle translations, and as auxiliaries (easier alternatives) use, in descending order, the Monastic Diurnal (an old original copy from the Peekskill Episcopal nuns) and the Rosary. I have the Anglican Breviary and like it as a resource but it’s too clunky for my ordinary use; the Diurnal’s handier. I also have Latin copies of the Little Office of the BVM and (only one volume so far) the Roman Breviary.
Once found a copy of Byzantine Daily Worship and was impressed but found I didn’t need it (I already have all the material in it I need); should have got it seeing what they sell for.
P.S. As BJA can tell you the Monastic Breviary of which the Diurnal is part is the official Roman Rite breviary of the Orthodox Church. US 1928 Morning and Evening Prayer is the other Western Rite one.
BJA correct me, but I don’t think it’s *the* official thing anywhere but in Christminster Monastery, ROCOR?
Huw –
The Monastic Office is the official form of the Divine Office for the Western Rite Vicariate (though, in practice, most places use the Prayer Book Offices, approved in the Vicariate in 1977 when the Liturgy of St Tikhon was introduced). This goes back to Fr Alexander Turner and the Society of Saint Basil, who based themselves on the Moscow Synod’s endorsement of the Benedictine Office for Overbeck’s scheme.
OK. That clears that up. Thanks! How does the Anglican Breviary fit in? or does it?
BJA can better answer this but although I’m fairly sure there are Antiochian Western Rite Vicariate people who use the Anglican Breviary I don’t think any Orthodox church has approved it for official use.
I had a similar problem with keep a Rule of prayer until I began using a Benedictine/Monastic breviary that I found in a defunct Catholic seminary.
If you think the Book of Common Prayer is light, then I suggest that you go and look at this here site (http://www.anglicanbreviary.net). They sell an Anglo-Catholic breviary that was around for centuries. It’s completely in English and in accordance with the Book of Common Prayer.
I used Byzantine Daily Worship also and found it to be a God-send at the time. I particularly like its introduction on worship and theology. Very interesting and enlightening.
Brother Juniper, I forgot to say a welcome when you first posted. Thanks for “de-lurking” as they say!
I love the Anglican Breviary… I thinik I still have my copy: very useful for things like daily lives of the saints, etc! I Purchased it when I was most fascinated with http://www.breviary.net
But I confess I *am* looking forward to my books from New Skete (provided they ever get here!)
very useful for things like daily lives of the saints
I’ve used it that way too.
The Anglican Breviary hasn’t been around for centuries, I’m afraid. It’s a rather late flower in Anglo-Catholicism, dating from around 1955 IIRC. I don’t know if any dioceses approved it. Back then that certainly was possible. In that period and a bit earlier, many extreme AC priests simply read the Roman Breviary in Latin privately. Parishes that did the public offices had customised BCP ones, Morning and Evening Prayer, like S. Clement’s does for Evening Prayer on weekdays.
I think ‘in accordance with the Book of Common Prayer’ means that like the English Missal there are options to use it that way, like US 1928 BCP collects for feast-days. But essentially it’s a slightly tweaked Roman Breviary (which the foreword explains) translated into BCP-style English.
breviary.net’s become a pay site. I liked it. It didn’t use BCP translations but hewed awfully close to them. (The project of a sedevacantist bishop – think the RC version of Old Calendarists – who’s acquainted with S. Clement’s.) In my blog’s religion sidebar I now have another breviary site linked, nicely designed (better than the old breviary.net) and easy to use. Alas for many, it’s all in Latin.
Breviary.Net is still free… you just have to know where to click on their front page! The for-pay site, btw, is not worth it. I took the free trial and, as far as mobility goes, it’s useless.
Thanks!
I apologize for saying that it had been around for centuries. In the heat of the moment, you sometimes say things that aren’t actually. It happens when you’re typing extremely fast. ;-)
As for it being a slightly tweaked Roman Breviary, I agree with you on that. Basically, it’s exactly the same breviary that was promulgated by Pope Pius X and Pope Benedict XV between 1910 and 1915, when it was finally published. There are some rubrical revisions and things like that, but it has remained essentially the same.
Bishop Daniel A. Dolan is the one who gave impetus to the site. If you scroll down far enough, you’ll get to where he starts talking about all kinds of interesting things about the “modern” Church.